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No such thing as " the Age of Accountability " as most every one describes it... Part 2
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There are 4 of God's holy and elect prophets recorded for us in Holy Scripture, whereas these were redeemed while they were
yet fetuses. These are... Jacob; David; Jeremiah and John the Baptist. Jacob, Ro.9. David, Ps.139. Jeremiah, Jer.1:4,5 and
John the Baptist, Lk.1:41,44.

Since even as with a fetus has redemption taken place then a fetus is fallen as is any and every son of Adam. Sinlessness is
to be found only in the imputation of righteousness in the courts of heaven, 1 Jn.3:9, but never in this life in this world,
Ro.7. Sin separates man from his Creator as did Adam. Being we all stood there in the Garden having likewise sinned against
God ( we know we have because we are assigned to dwell in the results of our sin here on this earth we moved God to curse...
we brought this on ourselves ) we come into this world with all the lusts innate in man which God addresses by saying...
" The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. " Ps.58:3. If this is not
accountability, what is ?

To use the young Jesus as a model for claiming the Age of Accountability begins at 12 is the same as saying sinful humanity
and the Living God are one and the same. By no means should anyone ever liken God, the Person, to man, the person. Man is of
his father the devil, Jn.8:44. This passage means man's next of kin is Satan himself as far as there being nothing in man of
a redeemed spiritual nature. We come into this world " athios "... " rendered " without God " in Eph.2:12. From this word we
get our English word " atheist."

We therefore conclude that by no design of God is there such a thing as an " Age of Accountability " since in their fetal
state of being forgiveness of sin has happened as already noted. Such seeks to elevate fallen man to the status of a holy one
of God... an elect, redeemed, made sinless by imputation of Christ's righteousness to his account but never able to reach
perfection to an absolute degree while in the flesh in this life as Romans 7 teaches us.

Sinless perfection from the fetal state is one of the many epitaphs given to Mary who herself admits to being redeemed as in
Lk.1:47. To be redeemed means personal sin dwells in the inner man. This explanation given by Mary as being born sinless she
herself does not admit to, thus evidencing her worshipers as blasphemer's and idolater's and completely ignorant of the
doctrine of Holy Scripture. Fallen man is simply that, fallen. No decree of God is found in all of Holy Scripture coming from
God whereas anyone other than He Himself, Jesus Christ, came into this world sinless.

In closing, to review, to claim there is such a decree of God rendering persons until age 12 or 20 unaccountable before God
due to their age is to talk heresy. Such a thing as Age of Accountability preaches the Lord Jesus Christ grants absolute
righteousness and then takes it back thus making Him look like a failure and a fickle Savior at best. Is this not what
Christendom is all about as they evidence this themselves in these End Times according to 2 Thes.2:1-12 and 2 Tim.4:3,4 ?

The scheme that fallen man is sinless involves the Co-Redeemer's preaching that he is not as bad as God says he is as in
Ro.3:10 and following. Even to say fallen man can turn from his wicked ways because he desires to is a lie according to
Pv.13:19b, et al. It's always been in the best interests of Co-Redeemer's to make themselves look better than what is said by
God of the fallen in Holy Scripture. Hence these " No Accountability until age 12 or 20 " schemes are found being preached by
Co-Redeemer's in their churches. This, of course, means fallen man " understand's " his sinful state of being as he preaches
contrary to Ro.3:10.

Age of Accountability preaches No Accountability. This preaching can not be seen in any other way. It's infinity better to
die before age 12 or 20 and be whisked away to heaven than it is to be 13 years of age, die, and be subject to death
everlasting... which, in the realm of Co-Redemption means on to Plato's burning hell forever and forever.

Lastly, anyone preaching the Savior Jesus Christ is fickle so as to decree anyone sinless up unto his 12th or 20th birthday
only to take it back deserves what he gets from God in Judgement.




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Steve Hayes
2016-08-03 02:15:18 UTC
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Re: No such thing as " the Age of Accountability " as most every one describes it... Part 2
The "age of accountability" is a legal concept, and varies according
to the legal system of the country concerned, and may be changed by
statute.

In systems derived from Roman law, the age of full accountability was
21, though many countries have modified it by statute to 18.

Some accountability kicked in at 14, and sometimes 14 for boys and 12
for girls -- for example the age at which they could marry (with the
consent ofg their parents, if under 21). Again this has been modified
by statute in many places.

A minimal kind of accountability kicks in at the age of 7. For
example, children between the age of 7 and 14 have been charged and
convicted of murder. Children under 7 are legally infants, and cannot
be held accountable in a court of law.

All this is according to Roman law, and other legal systems may vary.
But that is what the term "age of accountability" means and where it
comes from.


Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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