On ‘gay marriage’ think natural law

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/04/04/faith-matters-on-gay-marriage-...
[...]
It s hard to say what is more depressing about the same-sex marriage
madness: Is it the huge triumph of its proponents who have turned this
into a human rights issue in the befuddled public mind? Or is it the
profound inability of its opponents to argue in a coherent manner that
would appeal not just to Christians but all people with common sense and
a sense of right and wrong?
[...]
What the gay rights agitators demand is as insane as would be the
claim of plumbers to the human right of being called dentists. It s
time to wake up, take a cold shower, shake ourselves and realize that
this cannot be so, even if Fox commentators, who are supposedly on the
side of the traditionalists, insist on the contrary.
If Christian theologians wish to contribute to the survival of a sane
to the public in general and specifically to media stars such as
O Reilly and his entourage of beautiful blondes and brunettes, almost
all with law degrees but apparently with scant knowledge of the lex
inscripta governing human conscience. As for the rest of the mainstream
media marching in ideological lockstep, allow me to sigh: God help them!
[...]

Natural law is for animals.

Are you still on this gay nonsense as if you're going to turn the tide
single-handedly and in a newsgroup of all places? Seriously? Get
over it already. Either come out of the closet, because this gay
mania of yours could very well be indicative of you being in one, or
just plain give it up, because you're really at the losing end of the
argumen, you know.

David Hartung

2013-04-06 21:50:23 UTC

Natural law is for animals.
Are you still on this gay nonsense as if you're going to turn the tide
single-handedly and in a newsgroup of all places? Seriously? Get
over it already. Either come out of the closet, because this gay
mania of yours could very well be indicative of you being in one, or
just plain give it up, because you're really at the losing end of the
argumen, you know.

I am on the side of right, whether or not I "win", I have right on my side.

2013-04-06 21:51:42 UTC

Natural law is for animals.
Are you still on this gay nonsense as if you're going to turn the tide
single-handedly and in a newsgroup of all places? Seriously? Get
over it already. Either come out of the closet, because this gay
mania of yours could very well be indicative of you being in one, or
just plain give it up, because you're really at the losing end of the
argumen, you know.

I am on the side of right, whether or not I "win", I have right on my side.

You're confused. You're on the right wingnut side. That's not the
side of right.

David Hartung

2013-04-06 22:08:58 UTC

Natural law is for animals.
Are you still on this gay nonsense as if you're going to turn the tide
single-handedly and in a newsgroup of all places? Seriously? Get
over it already. Either come out of the closet, because this gay
mania of yours could very well be indicative of you being in one, or
just plain give it up, because you're really at the losing end of the
argumen, you know.

I am on the side of right, whether or not I "win", I have right on my side.

You're confused. You're on the right wingnut side. That's not the
side of right.

You are welcome to your opinion.

2013-04-06 22:11:06 UTC

Natural law is for animals.
Are you still on this gay nonsense as if you're going to turn the tide
single-handedly and in a newsgroup of all places? Seriously? Get
over it already. Either come out of the closet, because this gay
mania of yours could very well be indicative of you being in one, or
just plain give it up, because you're really at the losing end of the
argumen, you know.

I am on the side of right, whether or not I "win", I have right on my side.

You're confused. You're on the right wingnut side. That's not the
side of right.

You are welcome to your opinion.

You're not proving me wrong, so it must be more than an opinion. It
could very well be *fact*.

Mitchell Holman

2013-04-06 21:17:56 UTC

Post by David Hartung
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/04/04/faith-matters-on-gay-marriage-th
ink-natural-law/ [...]
Its hard to say what is more depressing about the same-sex marriage
madness: Is it the huge triumph of its proponents who have turned this
into a human rights issue in the befuddled public mind? Or is it the
profound inability of its opponents to argue in a coherent manner that
would appeal not just to Christians but all people with common sense
and a sense of right and wrong?
[...]
What the gay rights agitators demand is as insane as would be the
claim of plumbers to the human right of being called dentists. Its
time to wake up, take a cold shower, shake ourselves and realize that
this cannot be so, even if Fox commentators, who are supposedly on the
side of the traditionalists, insist on the contrary.
If Christian theologians wish to contribute to the survival of a sane

What, pray tell, is the "natural law" you are referring to?

2013-04-06 21:31:59 UTC

Post by David Hartung
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/04/04/faith-matters-on-gay-marriage-th
ink-natural-law/ [...]
It s hard to say what is more depressing about the same-sex marriage
madness: Is it the huge triumph of its proponents who have turned this
into a human rights issue in the befuddled public mind? Or is it the
profound inability of its opponents to argue in a coherent manner that
would appeal not just to Christians but all people with common sense
and a sense of right and wrong?
[...]
What the gay rights agitators demand is as insane as would be the
claim of plumbers to the human right of being called dentists. It s
time to wake up, take a cold shower, shake ourselves and realize that
this cannot be so, even if Fox commentators, who are supposedly on the
side of the traditionalists, insist on the contrary.
If Christian theologians wish to contribute to the survival of a sane

What, pray tell, is the "natural law" you are referring to?

Hartung expects you to understand it "naturally". After all, it's
only "natural" that you should. That's the "natural law" of things.
Didn't you know that?

David Hartung

2013-04-06 21:52:00 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by David Hartung
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/04/04/faith-matters-on-gay-marriage-th
ink-natural-law/ [...]
It s hard to say what is more depressing about the same-sex marriage
madness: Is it the huge triumph of its proponents who have turned this
into a human rights issue in the befuddled public mind? Or is it the
profound inability of its opponents to argue in a coherent manner that
would appeal not just to Christians but all people with common sense
and a sense of right and wrong?
[...]
What the gay rights agitators demand is as insane as would be the
claim of plumbers to the human right of being called dentists. It s
time to wake up, take a cold shower, shake ourselves and realize that
this cannot be so, even if Fox commentators, who are supposedly on the
side of the traditionalists, insist on the contrary.
If Christian theologians wish to contribute to the survival of a sane

What, pray tell, is the "natural law" you are referring to?

Hartung expects you to understand it "naturally". After all, it's
only "natural" that you should. That's the "natural law" of things.
Didn't you know that?

Once more the two of you refuse to read the entire article.

2013-04-06 22:08:12 UTC

Post by David Hartung
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/04/04/faith-matters-on-gay-marriage-th
ink-natural-law/ [...]
It s hard to say what is more depressing about the same-sex marriage
madness: Is it the huge triumph of its proponents who have turned this
into a human rights issue in the befuddled public mind? Or is it the
profound inability of its opponents to argue in a coherent manner that
would appeal not just to Christians but all people with common sense
and a sense of right and wrong?
[...]
What the gay rights agitators demand is as insane as would be the
claim of plumbers to the human right of being called dentists. It s
time to wake up, take a cold shower, shake ourselves and realize that
this cannot be so, even if Fox commentators, who are supposedly on the
side of the traditionalists, insist on the contrary.
If Christian theologians wish to contribute to the survival of a sane

What, pray tell, is the "natural law" you are referring to?

Hartung expects you to understand it "naturally". After all, it's
only "natural" that you should. That's the "natural law" of things.
Didn't you know that?

Once more the two of you refuse to read the entire article.

Why read the entire article when obviously you only snipped out what
you believe are the only salient points that are relevant to you. One
of those points is "natural law". What the hell kind of "natural
law"? And how do people collectively agree on what is "natural" and
should thus be considered a "law" and what isn't? You're not very
good at discussing your stance on things, even when you always use
proxies like cut-and-paste and selectively edited, as to be totally
biased, articles. You think that by just throwing it out there that
somehow the articles you post, or what they say that you agree with
but that you can never seem to elegantly articulate yourself,
automatically make sense. Prove that they make sense. Define
"natural law" and what makes it superior over all other laws. I'll
bet for every point you'll make, you'll get five counterpoints, and
counterpoints would only highlight the fact that there can only be
disagreement when it comes to defining what natural law is or should
be about or what "laws" about natural law everyone should be agreeing
with. That in itself negates the notion of any kind of "natural law"
being accepted universally.

David Hartung

2013-04-06 22:09:37 UTC

Post by Mitchell Holman

Post by David Hartung
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/04/04/faith-matters-on-gay-marriage-th
ink-natural-law/ [...]
It s hard to say what is more depressing about the same-sex marriage
madness: Is it the huge triumph of its proponents who have turned this
into a human rights issue in the befuddled public mind? Or is it the
profound inability of its opponents to argue in a coherent manner that
would appeal not just to Christians but all people with common sense
and a sense of right and wrong?
[...]
What the gay rights agitators demand is as insane as would be the
claim of plumbers to the human right of being called dentists. It s
time to wake up, take a cold shower, shake ourselves and realize that
this cannot be so, even if Fox commentators, who are supposedly on the
side of the traditionalists, insist on the contrary.
If Christian theologians wish to contribute to the survival of a sane

What, pray tell, is the "natural law" you are referring to?

Hartung expects you to understand it "naturally". After all, it's
only "natural" that you should. That's the "natural law" of things.
Didn't you know that?

Once more the two of you refuse to read the entire article.

Read the article and get back to me.

2013-04-06 22:11:36 UTC

Post by David Hartung
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/04/04/faith-matters-on-gay-marriage-th
ink-natural-law/ [...]
It s hard to say what is more depressing about the same-sex marriage
madness: Is it the huge triumph of its proponents who have turned this
into a human rights issue in the befuddled public mind? Or is it the
profound inability of its opponents to argue in a coherent manner that
would appeal not just to Christians but all people with common sense
and a sense of right and wrong?
[...]
What the gay rights agitators demand is as insane as would be the
claim of plumbers to the human right of being called dentists. It s
time to wake up, take a cold shower, shake ourselves and realize that
this cannot be so, even if Fox commentators, who are supposedly on the
side of the traditionalists, insist on the contrary.
If Christian theologians wish to contribute to the survival of a sane

What, pray tell, is the "natural law" you are referring to?

Hartung expects you to understand it "naturally". After all, it's
only "natural" that you should. That's the "natural law" of things.
Didn't you know that?

Once more the two of you refuse to read the entire article.

Read the article and get back to me.

You've already supposedly read the article. Prove that you understood
any of it.

Mitchell Holman

2013-04-06 22:32:28 UTC